SEO Elite Review - Warning: Some Testimonials Are Fake

Dec 31st

Warning About SEO Elite Feedback

Please be careful when reading feedback about SEO Elite. I shockingly discovered that many of the below comments praising SEO Elite are fake. Read more about it here.

If my experience with someone posting fake testimonials to this page says anything else for the marketing used to push SEO Elite, I am not sure how much I would trust any of it.

Why I Don't Recommend SEO Elite

I used to recommend Brad Callen's SEO Elite, but due to evolving search algorithms placing more emphasis on site age and usage data I believe that (unless you are penalized or are right on the edge of being penalized) looking through a link profile does not have much value beyond just getting a quick glance at it. And you can do that free using the link explorer inside Bing's webmaster tools.

And if you do get penalized by a search engine, you might be able to get a ticket (as well as link data for your site) inside their webmaster tools sections, plus the online link data sources are great at helping you spot trends and patterns.

Services like Majestic SEO & Ahrefs also let you download link data for your site (while charging if you want data for 3rd party sites). SEOmoz offers a free one-month trial & their Open Site Explorer also offers link data.

The Best Market Analysis Tool:

I rank on the first page of Google's search results for SEO. I know the field inside and out.

SEO for Firefox is a free tool which allows you to view far more data than most of the desktop SEO tools. Download it here for free today.

SEO for Firefox offers everything you would want to know about links and site authority status outside of anchor text, and my friend Joost De Valk created a free SEO link analysis Firefox extension which shows anchor text and PageRank next to links.

Just spending 5 minutes installing those two extensions means you don't need to waste any time or money downloading and installing bulky software. Further, if you use the online link databases you can be certain you are pulling fresh data & they have loads of features in their interfaces (like seeing which links are brand new, many ways to look through anchor text profiles, tracking new links to competing sites, and so on).

Free Online Link Analysis Tools (No Download Required!)

Bing offers a free link explorer inside their webmaster tools.

Backlink Watch shows you the anchor text and PageRank of inbound links for free.

Jim Boykin offers a number of cool tools.

Free Downloadable Link Analysis Software:

Tattler and Backlink Analyzer both allow you to view backlink information for free. Tattler is quicker than any of the paid tools on the market. At the price of free it can save you anywhere from $150 to $225 when compared to software like Optilink or SEO Elite. If you want a bit more data than what is featured in Tattler you may want to give Backlink Analyzer a go. Here is a free video on how easy it is to use Backlink Analyzer:

The above mentioned tools were powered by Yahoo! Site Explorer, which has since went away. :( ... However Bing offers a replacement in the link explorer inside their webmaster tools.

Catching Up With Free Tools:

SEO Elite does have a few features that are not included in the free tools listed above, but about the only features I found useful are also available in free easy to use web based tools, like rank checker. SEO Elite later added at co-citation data, which is something many other tools like Link Tree or Hub Finder have been doing for years.

Stay Away from Bad Link Neighborhoods:

I also would recommend avoiding link exchange networks and the typically low quality links people get by using automated link software. Years after search engines started torching websites for getting links from crappy link exchange directories people were still selling access to them, in effect charging you money to get your site penalized. ;)

Google's Matt Cutts has confirmed that these types of links can hurt your website and prevent Google from even indexing it. Most the sites that participate in them are spammy. If you force your link building and get many low quality links it will be much harder to crack the top 10 rankings. If you want to do link building that will actually help you rank I recommend reading this post.

Why Affiliates Push SEO Elite so Hard:

Affiliates recommending SEO Elite with rave reviews make over $70 per sale to recommend it. If I would have just recommended it to you via an affiliate link and you would have bought it I would have another $70 in my pocket, but think of effective link building as the art of getting real editorial citations that send traffic your way.

Since quality links require real human editorial judgement, most software will not help you on that front. In fact, focusing on software that has you looking at the wrong things may make it harder for you to become a topical expert.

A couple years ago when the algorithms were less evolved this was useful software, but I wouldn't recommend buying it today.

Published: December 31, 2006

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Comments

Kind of funny
June 12, 2007 - 7:21pm

I couldn't help but jump in on this one:

Aaron, you say "Also the software I recommend using is not stuff for sale, so it is not like I am trying to make money by recommending free software."

... which makes it sound like you have nothing to gain from this post, when you yourself use this "link building" tactic very often and actually teach it on your blog. (i.e. remember, you have an advertisement for your SEO book at the bottom of the page... which is smart, I might add)

See: http://www.seobook.com/archives/001936.shtml on "link baiting".

I completely agree that link baiting works well, but I can't say I'd have chosen such a reputable product of which I personally know of many happy users.

Have you used the most recent version? It doesn't sound like it, since it does contain everything you mentioned it doesn't.

If I were doing some sort of link baiting, I'd probably have gone with something like Web Position Gold or some other "on page optimization tool" which clearly no longer works.

Anyway, this is your blog, so I'm not here to judge. It's a free world, so obviously you can do and say whatever you want :-)

Just my thoughts.

June 12, 2007 - 7:38pm

What is kind of funny is that so many of the different comments praising this software (and attacking me from different angles on various posts) come from people who do not leave their email address, URL, or anything that would make me think that they are different people.

I suspect a lot of them are from one person who proudly uses deceptive marketing any way they can to rip people off. I am not surprised by the technique though, given other things I have seen them do.

Jerry West
June 12, 2007 - 8:44pm

Hey Aaron,

We've met a couple of times at WMW (hopefully you remember) I bought your eBook and reference it often ... good stuff. I wanted to inject my two cents in this running commentary regarding the "ethics" of what you are doing.

I believe my grandfather said it best: "Ethics is similar to quality, they are only defined by the person, not by society."

To the poster who was calling your marketing practice unethical is his opinion only ... you can't paint with a wide brush and expect everyone to think the same way you do.

Ethics, just as quality, is dependent soley on that persons beliefs, past experiences, education, etc. What I think is a quality product, you might think is garbage.

There are things that I do that I learned from Jake Baillie that people consider "unethical" that I view as "social engineering".

Jake is a God.

I use your tools and feel they are solid when they work. :-) I also use Brad's software, and I probably use it differently than most people. I agree that the landscape has changed in SEO, but so do the use of tools. It isn't the tool, but the brain of the person using the tool that makes it a solid weapon.

Brad has been solid with me. When I have a problem or a feature I want in the program, there are times he is back to me in an hour with a patch. Say what you want about his software, but that type of support kicks ass in my view and will keep me using his stuff.

And if I can take a jab at my good friend Leslie Rohde who hasn't updated his stuff in about four years, having someone who continues to improve the software is often rare in our industry. Just look at the plunge Web Position Gold took when Winters sold it.

Enough rambling ... when is the next update of SEO Book scheduled for release?

Loz
June 12, 2007 - 10:41pm

Hi Aaron,

Below are my honest opinions regarding SEO Elite v4.0

I think your statements about SEO Elite v4.0 are unfair and very uncalled for.

I understand you're a competitor of many SEO Experts out there, but using these types of tactics isn't very nice - the "not recommended" phrase is a little harsh.
Talk about the "bitch slap technique that Mr. X preaches" :(

I've bought your book and to my surprise, I learned more from Brad Callen in a short space of time than it did to read through your book, and then did I notice Brad has taught me even more than what your book covers.

I'm new to SEO - 12 months experience. I have learned a great deal about SEO, SEM, in its full entirety. I learn very quickly and SEO Elite has been a god send - very cheap and easy to use - it takes out all of the human interaction needed to perform effective SEO Rankings. Sure, one has to know the basics of SEO first before using the tool or one can not put it to its full use that it was created for.

There is NO WAY I would use free tools like you mention in our opening post here. Why? I don't fancy running around like a headless chicken searching this, searching that, when I can do all of this in one software package.

Sure, the SEO Firefox plug-in is fairly good, but no way on this God's green earth will it help you rank high for any keyword or phrases.

During the time I have used SEO Elite, I now rank on the first page of google, yahoo, msn for MANY keywords, over 1000 of them, and many page 2 and 3 keywords and phrases. And hundreds and hundreds of keywords in top ranking position that even beat PR4, 5, 6 pages/web sites with my PR0 and PR1 pages (when I started the project - my pages now have an average PR of 4.
My visitor hit count went from approx 100 a day to over 2000 a day inside 6 months. I now have over 40 web sites.
I only spent approx 1-3hrs every other day, or once a week.

My Page rank has gone from PR0 to PR6 and 7 on some of my web sites. I couldn't of done this without SEO Elite in that time. And this was before SEO Elite V4.0. Now it's even more powerful than before.

Using Keyword Elite along side SEO Elite is the Kung-fu of SEO. They work very well together. Those web sites you present in your opening post do not allow me to analyze these keywords in the time effective manner to gain top rankings in the Search Engines. I can do my analyzing in less than 20 minutes. Place a site up in 10 minutes on my server - fully optimized. And fetch hundreds upon hundreds of ONE WAY back links to my inner pages with SEO Elite.

All in all, SEO Elite has helped me analyze keywords, competitor's web sites, and many other off-page elements and complete my FULL analysis in 3 hours flat, per site. Then once a month I check each of those sites and use SEO Elite to fine tune my rankings in less than 1hr.

Brad Callen's software will do your site and rankings wonders providing one has studied the basics of SEO first and use it in the correct manner.

I highly recommend SEO Elite and any other software Brad has created. I have tried heaps of software out there and none comes close to this, especially for the price tag.

If one can not afford the $97 price tag, ok, sure, use those free resources, I sure hope these people that do have a lot of time on their hands because that's what they are going to need.

All the best,

Respectfully,

Loz

October 19, 2006 - 4:20pm

I did not know about those free SEO Elite alternatives, the only one that I did know about was DP’s Tracking Tool which I’m currently using. From what I’ve seen Tattler is a very good alternative to SEO Elite.
Regardes
Emperor

January 10, 2007 - 9:35am

Anna,

I found the SEO book was great reading, but I didn't learn much that I didn't already know. If you are not an advanced SEO already, it's the best 80 bucks you can spend period. If you already know a thing or two, it may not teach you anything new, but it does reinforce what you already know.

Aaron talks a lot about writing good content for people, and there was less techo stuff in there than I expected. The book talks a lot about how to appeal to people, and how to improve ROI etc. Not strictly SEO, but it's all relevant stuff. I felt the point Aaron was trying to make was that we should all spend less time micromanaging our link schemes and meta tags, and more time focusing on keeping the user happy. Sound about right Aaron?

I think it's worth buying even if you know lots about SEO already. SEO Book is cheap for what it is.

Charles Tomey
May 24, 2007 - 5:46am

I agree with some of the comments here in that there are some really good free tools. I have pretty much every free tool out there, as well as most of the big name paid tools like SEO Elite. While the free tools are good, in my opinion, the free tools are like children's toys compared to paid tools like SEO Elite and IBP from Axandra. There really is no comparison. For example, free tools don't come with training videos and material and definitely don't come with much of any support for the product.

I believe the main purpose for giving away free tools is to "get links" and build credibility. While that's fine, there is typically ZERO concern for the customer "after " they download any free tool.

To give an example of the contrary, I received an email from SEOElite the other day with 92 training videos, podcasts, and eBooks on tricks and tactics to using and getting the most out of the product.

http://www.training.bryxensoftware.com/seo-elite-training-site/

I would venture to say that you just don't get that with free tools. Atleast not the ones I've downloaded and used.

With that said, I will give Aaron credit for his honesty, although it sounds like he's referring to an old version of SEOElite since the new version actually includes everything he's saying it doesn't, and it looks like this thread hasn't been updated for a long time. But I suppose it makes for a good discussion :-)

So, Cheers Aaron. Always a good read, even if I don't agree with some of the feeback here. Back to making some money now!

Chuck

November 20, 2006 - 5:41pm

Hi,

Seo Elite is great software, I don't use Project #2 (emailing people) cause I got hosting account banned.

However the new update will have article submission and also another project.

Project 7 still works great, and Project #1 is also great to find sites that link to your competitors then link to them yourself.

Karl

February 6, 2007 - 10:27am

Very Unbiased comment indeed. Aaron! You rock!

I heard about SEO Elite from my friend and was no sure whether to buy it. Moreover, it is very expensive too.

Lisa Beal
February 14, 2007 - 10:38pm

For all it's worth, I love my copy of SEO Elite. Couldn't live without it.

-Lisa

gugo
January 22, 2007 - 9:52am

About using The Tattler it is not possible to use it behind a Firewall.

Anyone knows how to enable this "direct connection only" software to work behind a Proxy?

June 14, 2007 - 10:33am

Hi Everyone
I just learned that many of the above SEO Elite testimonials are fake, and am thus closing comments on this thread. You can read more about it here.

Vin
March 27, 2007 - 11:17pm

Hi Puneet,

I'm running the trial for SEO Elite v4 for almost one week now, and I'm thinking of buying it. But then, I stumbled on this page... Not sure you're talking about the same SEO Elite I'm running. I'm preety new to the game, but so far, it worked exactly like I'd expect it to work... sure, there are free tools out there to do something similar to it, but I for one like to get from A to B as fast as possible. I'll keep digging to see if I can find more pages like yours, but so far, I'm sticking with SEO Elite.

Regards,
Vince

August 20, 2006 - 4:52am

I had always thought SEOELITE is one of the the best in the market until I read your review on it.
Its an eye opener. Keep the flag flying.
Please can you make a review on the doser and WEBCEO?
Thanks.

November 13, 2006 - 4:58am

Well, i used SEO Elite for quite sometime but no result happening till now?

Talk Radio
December 29, 2006 - 5:27pm

Yep, this is clearly a very old review and doesn't hold much weight anymore. While I agree, version 3.2 lacked a bit, version 4.0 makes up for all of that, and I hear article directory submission is being added, which is cool.

Kyle
April 18, 2007 - 2:59am

Bought it two months ago. Love it.

Mary J
December 18, 2006 - 12:07am

Looks like your review is really old, Aaron. Please review Version 4.0, which was just released and covers everything you talked about in your review. I'd love to hear what you think.

kris
May 17, 2007 - 9:39pm

just download on limewire or from utorrent free?

March 20, 2006 - 4:48am

what appealed to me on seoelite was the ability to generate a links page.

As the amount of content on the web continues to grow traditional link pages and old school SEO tricks are becoming less and less useful. Plus social bookmarking sites like Del.icio.us make most traditional links pages irrelevant.

Links within content linking to content are what help you rank. And all your outbound links should not be in some random tucked away link section. Here is what a links page should look like.

i want to build links sections to make my site more of a resource for my readers so that's where they go when they can't remember where this or that site was - wouldnt throw up any old site on the results - would still check out the sites if i have to (i know a lot of them) and provide a quality description - i have no choice b/c i have a young internet-gen audience that are savvy to mktg crap and crappy sites.

What makes it so hard to generate link pages manually or with a program like Dreamweaver or a simple content management system like Wordpress? What happens when when you want to add more content and break pages into subsections and add editorial parts? You can't do that with most link page generators. But it is easy to do with free blog software or something like Dreamweaver.

Realistically adding links to a blog (or any site with a decent content management system) is just as easy as me typing and adding this comment.

The more I read i'm starting to wonder if a useful directory for my audience is gonna turn around and whack me on the ass if i'm not diligent about getting them to link back to me.

If you think you need to get a link back from everyone who is linking at your site you are missing a bit of what the WWW is about.

I would recommend reading these books, particularly The Cluetrain Manifesto.

(and yes i have a blog in the works, am going to be writing lots of useful information that people will want to link to without coercion and so on but wanted to put directory style for those looking for something fast and specific and not wanting to read thru blog posts etc)

Wordpress generates pages as easily or easier than most link directory software does, and is more flexible than any SEO software I have played with.

1. Is it true that if you link to a site that doesn't bother linking back to you it can damage you?

Well it is more likely that tit-for-tat junk link exchanges would hurt your site than linking out to actual useful resources.

Google update Jagger generally rendered most link exchange software and low quality link exchange scams useless for ranking in Google. In fact, linking out to many off topic junky sites may make it harder for you to rank, because if you link to junk Google may assume that your site is junk too.

But linking out to quality sites really shouldn't hurt you.

are links pages gonna kill me?

If they are used for junky link exchanges or in conjunction with spammy link exchange networks yes.

Also keep in mind that Google (and most other engines) do not like outsiders manipulating their search indexs. Most SEO software programs leave footprints that are easy to detect. If your site has the same footprints as many spammy sites Google may trust your site less.

what is a reasonable amount of links to have on a page and how much text per link to balance it out?

Whenever you artificially manufacture a link profile you have to assume that Google and other engines will likely notice it. The best way to have a natural link profile is to have other people naturally link at your site without you requesting the links.

Each page should be useful to people, so create pages that are useful for people and the link ratios will take care of themselves. The quality of links in and out matter much more than the percentage going each way.

2. Is the only smart and ethical way to go about link building is to contact sites one by one and make sure they link back to you?

Ethics are a bit of an arbitrary lable, but if you use software to send mass email spam it will probably destroy your brand credibility and your longterm potential.

3. do u know a "free tool" to generate me a links page or directory (leaving room for real description of site) section that i can integrate in my site without being a programmer and only knowing basic html?

My mother uses blogger and my step dad uses Wordpress. To me that means that just about anyone should be able to use wordpress.

It is not hard to make link code either...that only takes about 5 minutes to learn.

3. is my interest in catering to my users blurring my seo vision?

The web is social. If you solve other's needs you do not need to spend much effort worrying about SEO.

4. is this all answered in your seo book (i swear i'm buying it on pay day)?

It is all answered on this page. A bunch of free linking tips and free links to relevant useful free resources. My book is generally more in depth than my blog though because it is currently my main business model.

GiGi
February 17, 2006 - 3:34am

Ok I am new at the linking think. You lost me in definitions and purpose. That is OK. But you might have a short ebook for that. Do you a have one? I think that the more people you link to the better chance you have to getting your url pulled up first. I don't understand that yet. If I even understand what I just said. Well, I am where I am and that could be closer then you think. It is just tactical, sounds like you have done the creative thinking. I only need to know how you got there.

February 17, 2006 - 6:49am

That is sorta the concept...if you get quality links you rank well.

Hubfinder is a great free tool for showing you where to get high quality links at.

Chris
February 19, 2007 - 5:49am

After running through the free trial period for SEO Elite I had been considering purchasing a copy. I held back because of some of the free tools that I use online. What kept bringing me back to it was that it seemed much faster than doing everything manually.

But because of this post I now have more tools at my disposal. Thanks, you really opened my eyes to some options.

Mortgage Refinancing
December 1, 2006 - 6:56pm

I bought SEO Elite a while ago and was never able to use it. It did the searches properly but I couldn't get it to produce the links pages.

Aaron, what do you think about directory submission? Does it provide a good one way link?

Impressed
June 9, 2007 - 11:54pm

I am extremely impressed!!!

I must admit, you are doing a fabulous job of promoting your own e-book by using some of the beste marketing methods going.

Why not just attack your oposition and get people to agree with you. Just wondering, you did have a copy of SEO Elite, do you still have it?? I suppose you would. Why waste the money if you can "spy" on your competition. They give you all the upgrades free.

I just hope everybody that is so unhappy, will take some time to learn marketing. Maybe some will realise that this site is an excellent way to rank well and SELL a product to EVERYBODY that suddenly have doubts.

Suddenly all your problems dissepear, just buy the seo book.

Last comment, the price is not that far off the SEO Elite software price!

I APPLAUD you on you marketing efforts

Best wishes

September 27, 2006 - 11:49pm

Well I sold him rights to use that guide, although it is probably a bit dated at this point.

I have not updated that guide since I wrote it (unlike SEO Book).

March 22, 2007 - 7:33am

I was in a search for a SEO software like SEO Elite and came across here but still confused ... as some are saying they are not getting the needful results and at the same time some says they are.

So can any one suggest me for the SAME ???

Would be thankful if i get soon.

Regards
Puneet M

David
September 21, 2006 - 3:16pm

You wrote a guide on using Seo Elite. But since you no longer endorse the software, shouldn't you have Brad remove your guide from his bonuses?

January 27, 2007 - 12:46am

Keyword Elite and SEO Elite Suck Ass.

I've been in the software business 15 years, and have recently gone out on my own.

It takes a whle to understand who to trust and who not to in this SEO game.

A rule of thumb that I now go buy if someone offers you software and they sell on a page that is 18 screens long and has few if any other links, avoid it.

Brad Callen's software, Keyword Elite and SEO Elite are sold that way. I've learned that not only do the SEO methods that the software touts don't work, but the software itself is poorly written and most frustratingly of all, it comes with SCANT or NO Support.

Too much marketing and not enough attention to creating a stable product with decent software support.

The only way I got any attempt by the company to support it's creations is to go out onto the software community and detail the technical problems that I have with it. I get a message back from Brad that he'll look into it himself. Five days later, I send him a message, and he writes back that he's not ignoring me, but my problem is not a priority and they will get to it as soon as they can. But what I've got to do is do things manually. While that may not be a priority for them, I didn't buy the software so I could do manually what it should do in an automated fashion.

In addition, they don't ask for the environement I run in, the error log of the software or anything. So, I'm not really sure how they will ever get to it or put it on a list of items to work on in priority.

Now, I've got other problems with their software.

I've had it up to wherever with these hypsters. They give out huge affiliate commissions, but on the back end they don't support their own software.

Stay away from these two pieces of software and in my opinion anything else that is sold or hyped by Bryxen Software, Brad Callen, Keyword Elite or SEO Elite.

Jeff

January 16, 2007 - 5:01pm

Brad Callen -vs- Aaron Wall?
well Brad got me started in SEO with his 7-Days courses and I learned a lot, so I am grateful for that. But Aaron kind of sings my song more. I love the web and don't want to see it full of trash so the more aggressive forms of SEO link building don't appeal. I like Aarons more organic approach, build quality sites that people will want to link to, then use all the methods at your disposal to kick start your link campaign.
Hopefully once your site is 'above the radar', if it holds content of genuine value to it's audience then it will grow as people naturally link to it.
Google / Yahoo / MSN are advertising driven models now, and the value of their advertising space depends on the quality of the results they serve up. They will use their (considerable) might to remove content of poor quality, so play their game, don't try to be a smart alec.
After all in the mashup age it's not hard to produce a site of genuine value.

January 16, 2007 - 5:39pm

The 2 backlink checkers you recommend are almost useless.

The tattle returns all of the top 1000 backlinks but does not filter out the domain you are chacking so 900 of those 1000 end up being the same domain.

With the backlink analyzer, I can't even get it to a good query. I think it might be outdated and not parsing the returned data properly.

Steve
February 11, 2007 - 4:43am

Personally I think Jeff "sucks ass". Look at any internet marketing forum and you'll see that both SEO and Keyword Elite are 2 of the most used, highly respected software products in the industry. It's a shame how weirdos like, you, Jeff, spread nothing but pure BS.

a forum reader
February 11, 2007 - 6:38am

"Steve", you shouldn't ask for feedback you don't want. The forum threads speak for themselves.

The people in this thread does not sound like they were all that impressed
http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=154207

Giga... the software is garbage in my opinion. I've used almost every program out there on the market. It's fluff. Think of it this way. SEO = Money. SEO Software = A way to trick gullible people into using applications that do not give anything in return.

or this one
http://forums.seochat.com/e-commerce-development-63/seo-elite-brad-calle...

After installed SEO Elite it asked for my reg information, and then it told me I had to contact SEO Elite about getting it switched to my new PC. I have emailed, and called the man for the last 3 months over and over, and they never responded. This is my last ditch attempted to get them to supply support for their product that I paid for before I send my lawyers after them.

Marc Lindsay
June 11, 2007 - 6:57am

There seem to be a lot of replies in here about SEO elite sucking because they couldnt find link partners blah blah blah.

Grow up and take some responsibility. If you are using SEO Elite as a link garnering tool then you have missed the power of it anyway.

IMHO it is best used for competition research and analysis to know exactly what you should be doing to better them.

Also to check progress on your own sites etc. This is where I believe you will get most power from it.

And Keyword Elite, come on its awesome. Don't blame the tool fella's learn how to use it first. I have done 100's of thousands of keywords worth of research with Keyword Elite.

As for this thread. We'll if my memory serve's me well Aaron actually used to promot SEO Elite, in this same thread.

Co-incidently now that this thread is ranking well for SEO Elite, Aaron has decided to capatalize on that fact and promote his own software in here, use captivating title's to draw traffic From Brad's own site.

Good Marketing yes

Ethical...... Depends on your personal moral beliefs.

Does this discount Aaron's product? Certainly not, but the funny thing is I don't see Brad Callen utilizing tactic's like this?

Interesting point to ponder.

Regards
Marc

James the Trucker
April 11, 2007 - 10:46pm

Thanks for the info on seo elite. I was just about to purchase it to help improve our truck insurance website but after reading your article I've decided to just use the free tools you list.

June 11, 2007 - 8:42am

At the top of the post I said I used to recommend it but no longer do. To call that unethical marketing is absurd. There are many tools and techniques that were effective, but no longer are...as relevancy algorithms change so do the tools needed to do SEO. SEO is all about being as aggressive as you can within your risk tolerance, and changing with the algorithms.

I would use the word unethical for any SEO that does not change with the evolution of search.

Also the software I recommend using is not stuff for sale, so it is not like I am trying to make money by recommending free software.

August 4, 2006 - 7:55pm

Do you still feel the same about SEO Elite?

I heard Shoemoney recommend on his show about SEO Elite.

thx

August 5, 2006 - 10:36am

I still think there is similar and/or better free software out there. Also give SEO for Firefox a try.

Brad
May 21, 2007 - 10:37pm

Aaron,

Are there any good programs for windows to help find keywords with a lot of searches and a small amount of competition?

Thanks,

Brad

January 18, 2007 - 7:52am

I've only "tried" SEO Elite. All I got was a ton of spam filtered seo course from Brad :) This thing will fall by the wayside with the likes of Smart Pages, IP Blasters and others.

miss
March 4, 2006 - 3:36am

what appealed to me on seoelite was the ability to generate a links page. i want to build links sections to make my site more of a resource for my readers so that's where they go when they can't remember where this or that site was - wouldnt throw up any old site on the results - would still check out the sites if i have to (i know a lot of them) and provide a quality description - i have no choice b/c i have a young internet-gen audience that are savvy to mktg crap and crappy sites. The more I read i'm starting to wonder if a useful directory for my audience is gonna turn around and whack me on the ass if i'm not diligent about getting them to link back to me. (and yes i have a blog in the works, am going to be writing lots of useful information that people will want to link to without coercion and so on but wanted to put directory style for those looking for something fast and specific and not wanting to read thru blog posts etc)

So in this confused mess of a post here are my questions: 1. Is it true that if you link to a site that doesn't bother linking back to you it can damage you? are links pages gonna kill me? what is a reasonable amount of links to have on a page and how much text per link to balance it out? 2. Is the only smart and ethical way to go about link building is to contact sites one by one and make sure they link back to you? 3. do u know a "free tool" to generate me a links page or directory (leaving room for real description of site) section that i can integrate in my site without being a programmer and only knowing basic html? 3. is my interest in catering to my users blurring my seo vision? 4. is this all answered in your seo book (i swear i'm buying it on pay day)?

Kyle M. Brown
May 21, 2007 - 11:15pm

SEO for FireFox is an excellent tool.

I wish I had found it prior to my SEOElite purchase.

Although I think its a good program with great support and training material, especially for a someone new to SEO.

Steve
February 12, 2007 - 7:18pm

Yes, and like I said. Look at well known "Internet Marketing" forums. Both of those forums contain a very large amount of people that simply hang out in the forums as a hobby.

I'm not saying everyone in those forums are like that, but I can tell you that a large majority just hang out in the forum for fun. I will agree that DP does have a few legitimate business owners, but SEOChat... well, that's another story.

I don't know about you, but a hobbyist is not who I want to take my advice from.

Take a look at comments left in these "internet marketing" forums. These are legitimate forums containing REAL business owners, instead of mostly kids and "hobbyists".

The Warrior forum is one of the most well-respected marketing forums on the web, owned by Allen Says. Look up his name for proof that he's the real deal.

http://www.warriorforum.com/forum/topic.asp?ARCHIVE=true&TOPIC_ID=51865
http://www.warriorforum.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=122325&#761689
http://www.warriorforum.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=110147

Another VERY well respected marketing forum, with REAL business owners, owned by Tony Blake... Look up his name.

http://www.ablake.net/archive/index.cgi?read=231471
http://www.ablake.net/archive/index.cgi?read=229440

And yet another EXTREMELY popular marketing forum, owned by John Reese. One of the biggest names in internet marketing.

http://forum.marketingsecrets.com/about3920.html&highlight=

And another high profile marketing forum... Michael Green's forum.

http://www.howtocorp.com/cgi-bin/webbbs_config.pl/noframes/read/53130

list goes on... (different marketing forum) This one owned by Russell Brunson.

http://www.conqueryourniche.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=43145&sid=4b0665c9...

Now, back to the DP forum... You'll also find good comments:

http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=32618

As you can see, reviews are in the eye of the beholder. You'll find positive reviews, as well as negative. It just depends on the type of person you're listening to.

As with any product that's as popular and used as SEO Elite, everyone won't be happy. That's a given. Look up any product and I guarantee you'll find negative reviews online by someone.

And, no, I'm not getting paid to say this, nor am going to post an affiliate link. Just giving credit where credit is due.

Off my soap box now.

Parental Contro...
January 19, 2007 - 4:03am

I have been using SEO Elite for about 2 months now. At first I found it to be very discouraging because nothing seemed to work as the sales page shows. After reading the user guide about 5 times, I realized the reason I did not like it was because I did not know how to use it effectively. Version 4 is great and reveals a lot of information that would take you days to research manually. Although the free tools here produce some of the same results, they don't offer everything Seo Elite does. I think it was well worth the money.

Anna
January 5, 2007 - 9:08pm

Hi

Just wanted to know if you or anyone else out there knows of any free SEO software that you can recommend as what I have been using, Web CEO is no longer as effective as it was 9 months ago. Have the Algorithms and or spider in google changed that much in 9 months.

Can any current users give me more info on the benefits of the new version 4 SEO Elite does it not help at all with current google SEO requirements and the or linking.

How about directory submissions what's the best way to do that?

Could you also tell me honestly if would your book would be of great benefit to help the more advanced IT and SEO type of user in my situation.

As to be honest it sounds great for a beginner level but maybe not as useful to an advanced user with SEO expertise, can you clarify this please. Is it generally more of a basic teaching guide for inexperienced IT and SEO users?

Thanks

Marc Lindsay
June 12, 2007 - 7:49am

Hey Aaron, great to see you around. I have nothing but respect for the work you do, your book and also Pacific Ocean Newsletter are some of my best reads.

So kudos.

And you definately have some awesome tool's I use some of them quite often myself

I guess what prompted me to post initially is that, yes I guess unethical is an overstatement.

However I believe the purpose of the tool has been overlooked. It is not to provide a holy grail of SEO tool's. It is a research and analysis tool in my opinion in which the most power comes from analysing a current site.

Seriously dude, you have the goods here, you rock at what you do. I just saw a much better way to deliver your message.

I believe you are looking at this tool purely from a link building method?

Please correct me if I am wrong?

It is far from a link building tool, I would call it more of an analysis tool. For me I use it every day when analysing client's sites, my own sites etc etc. Easy to give a quick "health" snapshot of my sites.

In the end, I know both you and Brad do great thing's in the SEO industry. I don't see the need for what "looks" like publicly a blow to Brad?

I am certain you don't mean it to be that way, but that is how it looks.

Please Aaron, feel free to email me at the email address I put on here, it is a working email.

Regards
Marc Lindsay

John
January 19, 2007 - 10:15pm

What a spammy comment signature there Parental... hehehe.

Who in their right mind would use that as their signature?

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