I was chatting with DaveN last night about Google's spam problem. So many spammy listings are dominating Google using the following techniques:
submitting spam to a social news site (I see a lot of 1 vote Netscape and Digg listings for long tail queries in the consumer fiance vertical)
linking to a site search on an authoritative site like weather.com, limited to your target keyword and site:mysite.com. Google has had the regurgitating search result problem for at least 5 months now.
leveraging an authoritative redirect off a site like Archive.org
DaveN also pointed out how many clean sites like WebStandards.org funnel PageRank to sites that show spamming is indeed a web-wide standard. Still way too much weight on domain authority Google!
I think social news sites should make all individual pages for news items noindex for that exact reason. If an item gets popular it'll get dozens or even hundreds of extra links from other blogs, I doubt that one less link would cause a huge problem.
But then that would probably result in lost ad revenue for sites like Digg that I would assume use a CPM model, they probably get a ton of traffic from Google and the others for those long tail items.
You have to respect DaveN AND Aaron Wall! Though I have been occasionally a bit aghast at remarks DaveN has made from the podium as well as face to face while less than sober...I must say he speaks his mind and reveals a termendous amount that is decidely insightful. I recently noticed the weather.com problem on page 2 SERP of DaveN's favorite search "Buy Viagra"...
Google is so spammy in areas it is shocking. C'mon Mr. Cutts... You are losing the battle and all of Google and possibly much of Web 2.0 may go down with you!?
johnnyfundae
August 1, 2007 - 12:12am
Sorry if I am a bit slow but I follow all of the items that you (and daven) mentioned but I don't quite understand how people are using webstandards.org to funnel pagerank to their spammy sites.
Jeremy Luebke
August 1, 2007 - 12:13am
Matt is busy chasing down relevant paid links to legitimate sites to worry about these kind of tactics ;)
Hi Johnnyfundae
If you look long enough there is a member's personal blog linked to where every post is PR6 or higher, and they are selling a bunch of sitewide outbound links as well.
I've noticed this too... its a massive problem and something that should be easily rectified. there is NO REASON Google should ever list another directory/search results page as they're too easy to detect i.e. does th content of this results page match MY OWN LISTING DOH!
The same goes for scraper sites that include Google results as content.
I've seen the archives.org spam a lot too. Not good at all.
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