a margin based business that undercharges off the start is doomed to fail as the medium grows more competitive...
Can't completely agree...
Via SER the latest SEO scam marketing technique is to cold call and threaten well ranking sites that their site will be banned if they do not pay you. If you say no, they threaten to turn you in for spamming to get your site blacklisted quicker.
According to David Wallace the firm that is allegedly doing this is Paramount Webmasters. A funny detailed email exchange is posted here.
Important to note that this blackmail issue is not any of the arbitrary black hat seo vs white hat seo crap. Search spamming actually has the ability to teach you algorithmic criteria for ranking well in the engines. Many of the best SEOs are also search spammers. Think of them as field tested experts. But search spamming is not the problem here.
This problem is purely a business ethics issue. In any market where business owners are uninformed some sleazeballs will come along and try to bilk a few hundred or few thousand dollars out of businesses. Those people are just like the pieces of garbage that mail me domain monitoring, domain registration, and trademark monitoring scam mail.
I think the reason SEO gets more of a black eye than domain registrars, hosts, and web designers is largely determined by roughly 12 criteria (3 here and the rest later on):
Because you notice registrars have a practical function BEFORE scammers contact you, if you ever get ripped off by a bogus bill you don't associate that with registrars, you associate that action with scammers. You have to have a certain sense of curiosity or an analytical mind to naturally want to think about how and why search engines determine relevancy. In SEO all too many webmasters discover the topic WHILE a scammer has contacted them offering to blackmail them. Thus their mental frameset is first determined by their interaction with scammers.
Worse yet, after getting scammed once or twice a business owner might feel beat down and never have enough trust in the field to be able to spend enough to afford someone who would do honest quality work, so they keep going back to
Either way, after a business is burned once or twice they are likely to keep getting burned due to a fear of committing too many resources.
Other issues that give SEO's a bad rap are:
In the same way I would like to disassociate Paramount Webmasters from the SEO field, it is also worth noting that a business can use direct mail or the phone for marketing (even Yahoo! cold called me asking me to join their ambassador program) and be an ethical business, but it is important to look for independent signs of quality and do a bit of research before buying from anyone who first contacts you. It is usually better to chose your business partners than to let them chose you.
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a margin based business that undercharges off the start is doomed to fail as the medium grows more competitive...
Can't completely agree...
If they don't learn to fix their prices they eventually get priced out of the market by competitors better leveraging assets for profits.
For example, it was not hard for me to quickly spam-my-way-to-the-top-of-Google for about $100 in some categories a few years ago. I think I was top 5 for "search engine marketing" within about 8-9 months of jumping on the web on under $500 spend.
If today I had the the same knowledge set and resources I had back then I could not replicate that result.
It may still be possible in many categories, but a bit more is needed on the knowledge or resource front today in some fields (especially with Google over-emphasizing old linkage data from trusted domains).
Some people can do well if they eventually adjust their pricing, but I actually had to take on a partner to sell services because if I did it by myself still I would still notoriously underprice it and spread myself too thin.
It is a big mindset change to go from charging people a few dollars an hour to charging them what is needed to create something that will stand up to evolving search algorithms in hyper-competitive marketplaces.
7 years ago, I landed my first SEO job... So your second point especially regarding confidence and low price resulted in problems me.
As I noticed a move toward paid inclusion and PPC, I foolishly believed that SEO was dead.
Its amazing to see just how mature the industry has become in recent years - Great post!!!
:)
I see prices all over the board for SEO work from tens of thousands to to $40 or $50 dollars.
I believe more money will put in to search - seo - and optimizing websites for the search engines than website design in the future.
My customers want to be found not beautiful
Hi Keith
The stuff at the $40 to $50 range is probably not providing much personalized attention.
$10,000's are the big projects. I guess those types of projects are in the takes money to make money category.
Thanks Todd. Your blog has been rocking for like at least the last year or so.
You´re not doing TOO big of a project for just 10k, are you?
If it was 10K a month I surely would. 10K one time fee...it really depends there...it is not hard to have a noticable impact in most markets with 10K.
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